Beijing's Best Nightlife: City Weekend Readers' Choice Awards 2009

《City Weekend》的两千位读者投票得出：

NIGHTLIFE NEWCOMER: Punk

With its church altar chandeliers, mind-melting libations and crowd of local hipsters and in-the-know jet-setters, The Opposite House's chic basement club captured a third of your votes. Nightly, DJ Saul, on two turntables—and, yes—a microphone, drives the dance floor into a state of ecstacy. Barman Warren Pang mixes potent elixirs like his "jasmine iced tea." For Beijing revelers, Punk is never anything less than a religious experience.

Second Place: Domus
Editor's Pick: Glen

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BEST BEER: The Tree

Commanding more than twice the votes of its nearest competitor, The Tree's mouthwatering menu of Belgian ales and fruit-flavored boutique beers decidedly won our readers' hearts and livers for the third year in a row. Order a bitter witbieren to wash down the Tree's classic pepperoni pie or sweeten up a salad with a lucious raspberry-flavored Belgian Kriek.

Second Place: Stumble Inn
Editor's Pick: Paulaner Bräuhaus

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BEST SINGLES: MIX

In this year's most tightly fought category, Mix seized the top spot with less than 10 votes over Suzie Wong's and Coco Banana. Why do readers keep coming back to this Gongti classic to get their game on? For starters, it's packed seven nights a week. Reader Nick asks, “Why are there always so many people?” Mix is a night spot that lets natural selection run its course.

Second Place: Coco Banana
Editor's Pick: Club Suzie Wong's

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BEST BATHROOMS: LAN Club

With 40 percent of your votes, LAN Club shut out the competition. Readers handed LAN the crown not because they want to sit on the same throne as celebs like Tony Blair and Zhang Ziyi, but because LAN's palatial bathrooms truly have no equal. With their tinted mirrored walls, porcelain swan taps and sensual love seats, there is little doubt where LAN's real VIP rooms are.

Second Place: Punk / Mesh
Editor's Pick: Chocolate

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BEST COCKTAILS: Glen

Readers debate the lavish price tags, but they agree on the quality of the sublime cocktails at this brilliant boutique bar. This newcomer knocked down two-time Best Cocktail winner Q Bar with its secret weapon: bartender Iida Tomonobu. This master mixologist doesn't simply mix every cocktail to perfection, he personally buys fresh fruit daily and hand slices the ice to compliment a cocktail's flavors and the shape of the glass.

Second Place: Mix at Westin Chaoyang
Editor's Pick: Q Bar

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BEST PUB GRUB: All Star

All-Star rocked Beijing in March with the launch of its American comfort food menu. Readers showed appreciation by giving up a third of their votes. With melt-in-your-mouth In-N-Out-style burgers, onion rings, fries and chili cheese dogs, All-Star's pub grub is the perfect remedy after imbibing too many of its Long Islands or spiked strawberry milk shakes.

Second Place: The Den
Editor's Pick: Cargo Club

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BEST SPECIAL EFFECTS: Tango

With a new, larger dance floor and the hottest laser lights in the capital, Tango continues to win over the capital's clubbers. Anyone who partied at BáiCaì and Tango's spectacular Circus Party last month saw what the club is capable of: jugglers tossed flourescent balls while revelers in body paint writhed in a hail of lasers to the most infectious French house beats.

Second Place: Tang Micheng
Editor's Pick: Cargo Club

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BEST AL FRESCO: The Beach

Focusing on its new Thai-style club Ruby Khi, Block 8 still hasn't launched The Beach this summer. Readers, however, haven't forgotten last summer's mind-blowing parties and handed the rooftop club 26 percent of their votes. Last summer, this was the spot where Beckham was popping Champagne alongside the U.S. Dream Team. Now, open up for '09 already!

Second Place: Q Bar
Editor's Pick: Fez Bar

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BAND OF THE YEAR: Pet Conspiracy

Snatching the Band of the Year title out of Black Cat Bone's paws by 17 votes, electro-punk outfit Pet Conspiracy astounded audiences this year with the wildest live show in the capital. Recent sets have rocked Beijing revelers with giant balloons, LED lighting rigs, massive audience conga lines, singer Yunyun's screeching from atop guitarist Huzi's shoulders and, of course, the mesmerizing, pitch-perfect melodies of frontwoman Helen Feng. After its first year performing arty, experimental synth rock, Pet Conspiracy defined its sound on a European tour last winter. "We played a hot crowd in Cologne," recalls Feng. "So, we had to go more punk. We knew it was going well when the crowd started tearing the speakers down." Performing jaw-dropping originals, as well as covers of Mando-pop classics like "Zhantai," Pet Conspiracy is a band with distinctly local flavor and obvious international potential.

Second Place: Black Cat Bone
Editor's Pick: Lonely China Day

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BAR OF THE YEAR: Mesh

Edging out Sanlitun classic Q Bar by 28 votes, this Opposite House newcomer scored big with readers for its packed happy hours, chic ambience and divine drinks. User Nalek writes, "Nice place. Laid back and not crowded. Service was quick and the cocktails amazing." With Punk winning Nightlife Newcomer and Mesh taking Bar of the Year, it's obvious how much readers enjoy sipping exceptional drinks in one of the capital's awe-inspiring artchitectural wonders.

Second Place: Q Bar
Editor's Pick: Zeta Bar

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MOST GLAMOROUS: Lan Club

Though LAN impresses with world-class DJs, live jazz and masterful cocktails, eye-candy continues to be one of readers' chief reasons for frequenting this see-and-be-seen legend. French designer Philippe Starck's ode to excess includes 35 private rooms. There are as many oil paintings in the art gallery as affixed to the ceiling. Online user Yassa sums it up: "LAN is a place for indulgence. It's super expensive, beautifully decorated, and cocktails are not for the faint hearted." Another asks, "Does anyone else feel like they're in a transition scene from Ocean's 11 while sitting in LAN Club?"

Second Place: Bling
Editor's Pick: China Bar (Park Hyatt)

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BEST LIVE MUSIC: D-22

Kiss may be right in proclaiming “God gave rock 'n' roll to you,” but it was undoubtedly D-22 that gave indie rock to Beijing. Snaring twice the votes of its nearest competitor, this red-walled Wudaokou rock house is a Beijing institution and the beating heart of the capital's live scene. Reader Jheeter describes it as "A no frills punk rock club, complete with grotty, graffiti covered bathrooms ... What D-22 lacks in aesthetic appeal, the club makes up for with Beijing's best acoustics and regular gigs." For three years, D-22 has given a stage to the capital's underground bands. With the launch of the affiliated Maybe Mars record label, the club now lets the whole world rock out to D-22 regulars like Joyside, Carsick Cars and the Gar.

Second Place: East Shore Live
Editor's Pick: Yugong Yishan

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DJ OF THE YEAR: Blackie

London transplant DJ Alex Blackie was asked to join drum 'n' bass crew The Syndicate after his first set at Lush four years ago. Since, he's continued to drive dance floors with dynamic sets at Yen parties, Great Wall raves and, of course, Syndicate shows. Thomas Gaestadius of White Rabbit explains Blackie's magic: "He's a DJ who knows how to build a set and move a crowd."

Second Place: Keza
Editor's Pick: Patrick Yu

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BEST PROMOTERS: Riviera Events

Last summer, these party veterans came north to give the capital a taste of the Shanghai shebang with the wildest Champagne pool parties Beijingers had ever seen. Then their "Pimp My Club" party series helped launch Bling to the top of Beijing nightlife. Focusing on flawlessly executed events rather than big name DJs, Riviera makes sure Beijing always looks its best.

Second Place: Yen/02 Culture
Editor's Pick: BaiCai

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BEST SPORTS BAR: All-Star

Winning the largest margin of any category in this year's Readers' Choice Awards, All-Star snagged three times more votes than its nearest competitor. With 68 flat screens projecting satellite sports, a free throw hoops game and air hockey, it's easy to see why: Solana's sports bar is the perfect spot to get your game on.

Second Place: Paddy O'Shea's
Editor's Pick: The Den

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CLUB OF THE YEAR: Bling

This upscale hip-hop club snatched a full third of your votes. Reader Yassa raves, “Good fun crowd, best sound system in Beijing, great service from the bar staff.” Others laud the über-cool Rolls Royce Phantom-styled DJ booth. That's where resident DJ Keza and a stream of marquee hip-hop DJs throw the beats that drive the dance floor into a frenzy nearly every night.

Second Place: Lan Club
Editor's Pick: GT Banana

the Beijinger's 6th Annual Reader Bar & Club Awards 2009

《the Beijinger》2000投票结果：

New Bar/Club
Best: Chocolate
Outstanding: Mesh, Opposite House; The Stumble Inn

Survivor
Best: The Tree
Outstanding: Lush; Suzie Wong's

Cocktails 
Best: Q Bar
Outstanding: Centro, Kerry Centre; Mesh, Opposite House

Cheap Drinks 
Best: Nanjie
Outstanding: Kai Club; Tun

Wine Bar 
Best: La Baie des Anges
Outstanding: Aperitivo; Aria, China World; Centro, Kerry Centre

Drink Selection 
Best: Q Bar
Outstanding: Mesh, Opposite House; The Tree

Live Music 
Best: Yugong Yishan
Outstanding: D22; Mao Livehouse

Draught Beer 
Best: The Tree
Outstanding: Paddy O'Sheas; The Den

Bartender 
Best: George Zhou, Q Bar
Outstanding: Claire Dong, Lush/Pyro Pizza; Andy, The Rickshaw

Dancing 
Best: White Rabbit
Outstanding: Salsa Caribe; Vics

Bar Food 
Best: The Tree
Outstanding: Lush; The Rickshaw

Lounge 
Best: Bed
Outstanding: Face; Q Bar

Sports Bar 
Best: Paddy O'Shea's
Outstanding: All-Star Sports Bar & Grill; The Den

Student Hangout 
Best: Lush
Outstanding: Nanjie; Propaganda

After-Hours Club 
Best: White Rabbit
Outstanding: Suzie Wong's; The Den

Hotel Bar 
Best: Centro, Kerry Centre
Outstanding: Mesh, Opposite House; Punk, Opposite House

Place to Bring a Date 
Best: Bed
Outstanding: Face; Q Bar

Place to Find a Date 
Best: Suzie Wong's
Outstanding: Propaganda; Tun

Happy Hour 
Best: The Saddle Cantina
Outstanding: The Den; The Rickshaw

Nightclub 
Best: White Rabbit
Outstanding: Suzie Wong's; Vics

Business Networking 
Best: Centro, Kerry Centre
Outstanding: Aria, China World; The Bookworm

Beautiful People 
Best: Suzie Wong's
Outstanding: Bling; Block 8; Mesh, Opposite House

Regular Events 
Best: 80s Night @ Alfa
Outstanding: Cinco de Drinko @ The Saddle Cantina; Ladies Night @ Tun; Syndicate vs Bai Cai @ White Rabbit

Décor 
Best: Lan
Outstanding: Chocolate; Face

Outdoor Drinking 
Best: Kokomo
Outstanding: Q Bar; The Saddle Cantina; The Stone Boat

Bathrooms 
Best: Lan
Outstanding: Block 8; Zeta Bar, Hilton

Most Worthy of a Long Cab Ride 
Best: Lush
Outstanding: Bed; Propaganda

Value 
Best: Tun
Outstanding: Nanjie; The Den

Bar/Club of the Year 
Best: Mesh, Opposite House
Outstanding: Block 8; Paddy O'Shea's; Q Bar

 Sub Rosa 2009

我早觉得Sub Rosa这比利时布鲁赛尔厂牌是做声音图书馆这路线的，这回是中国实验音乐选集《An Anthology of Chinese Experimental Music 1992-2008 (from Mainland China, Hong Kong, Taiwan, Singapore, Malaysia)》。官方中文网站在线：http://noiseasia.ioartconception.com/

编号 SR265
条形码 5411867112655

An Anthology of Chinese Experimental Music (1992-2008)
from Mainland China (Beijing, Shanghai, Chengdu, Guilin, Hangzhou, Shenzhen, Guangzhou, Fuzhou, Shanxi, Harbin) - Hong Kong - Taiwan - Singapore - Malaysia

This anthology features 48 artists from within the Chinese area of influence. It is designed
as a journey through what is currently happening underground, under extremely diverse forms.
It also looks at the recent past and the key role of pioneers like Wang Fan, Dajuin Yao,
and also Hong Kong-based Li Chin Sung aka Dickson Dee who, for almost two decades, has been
spreading the word about Experimental music in Mainland China. This album was curated by
Dickson Dee on Guy Marc Hinant's invitation. It includes an enlightening presentation on the
short yet intense advent and history of the Chinese noise explosion,co-written by Zbigniew
Karkowski and Yan Jun.

The Sound of the Underground
An Overview of Experimental and Non-Academic Music in China

The Chinese Cultural Revolution (1966-76) in one way or another eradicated most of the
existing culture in China. At the same time as intellectuals were sent to rural labor camps,
countless ancient buildings, antiques, books, paintings and various artifacts were just
destroyed. This period created an enormous intellectual, cultural and artistic vacuum in
China – destruction that in a sense, time is still healing.
So tradition of music culture and especially non-academic, purely experimental music,
started from ‘point blank' scratch sometime in the 80ies. With the market economy
introduced in that decade and further media developments in the 90ies, there was a kind
of an explosion in youth culture that had been held back for decades. Movements and music
scenes that previously never reached China – like for instance psychedelic music, punk
or neo-dada started to appear and expanded at astonishing pace.
The birth of these alternative rock and punk music scenes that later developed into even
more experimental trends is a direct result of global capitalism and profound change in
China's position within the World Order. It however did not develop the same way as it
usually does in the West – with one eye looking forward and the other one always glancing
at history. It started with ‘dakou' and with piracy.

 4CD+16页书2本

tracklisting

CD1
01. Li Chin Sung aka Dickson Dee (Hong Kong) / Somewhere (1994) / 10'33
02. Zenlu (Shenzhen) / Zen (2007) / 9'19
03. Bai Tian (Chengdu) / Wet (2007) / 4'05
04. Cheewei (Singapore) / Evening has arrived (2006) / 8'02
05. Lim Giang (Taipei) / “???” (2006) / 8'41
06. Ang Song Ming aka Circadian (Singapore) / Book radio mixer (2007) / 3'02
07. Chung-Han Yao (Taipei) / Untitled (2005) / 5'02
08. Goh Lee Kwang (Malaysia) / Frong spraying (2007) / 3'42
09. Wu Quan (Beijing) / Weather forest (2006) / 5'04
10. Me:Mo (Beijing) / pro.a (2007) / 4'30
11. Wang Jong-Kuen (Taipei) / Leaving (2006) / 5'40
12. Dajuin Yao (Zuoying) / Psycho Realm (2006) / 5'29

CD2
01. Sun Dawei (Beijing) / Crawing state (2007) / 4'14
02. Nara (Beijing) / Dream a little dream (2007) / 6'54
03. WFDD / Wang Fan + Dickson Dee (Beijing/Hong Kong) / Sin (2007) / 8'36
04. Stingrays (Singapore) / 061020 (2006) / 5'18
05. Dennis Wong aka Wong Chung-Fai (Hong Kong) / para_dot (2006) / 5'12
06. Fathmount aka Wilson Lee (Hong Kong) / A yoke of oxen (2007) / 4'56
07. PNF (Hong Kong) / Chi (1994) / 3'11
08. Li Wen Tai aka Vince Li (Hong Kong) / Eat (2007) / 4'57
09. Shenggy (Beijing) / Junggy 's decay (2007) / 3'05
10. Ronez aka Zhou Pei (Guilin) / Kikusui Back (2006) / 4'57
11. Zhou Ri Sheng (Shanxi) / Noise God (2006) / 7'22
12. Fish (Taipei) / Rusty Crane Keelong (2007) / 4'46

CD3
01.Torturing Nurse (Shanghai) / Fugitive (2006) / 14'46
02. Wang Fan (Beijing) / Zero (2006) / 6'28
03. Wuwei + Ulrich Morits (Shanghai/Berlin) / Toy Ships (2003) / 2'48
04. Xper. Xr. & The Orphic Orchestra (Hong Kong) Hickory Dickory Dock (1992) / 1'01
05. Hong Qile (Fuzhou) / j gmc (2007) / 8'00
06. Ying Fan (Taipei) / L2255 mix (2007) / 3'58
07. Dead J aka Shao Yanpeng (Beijing) / untitled (2007) / 3'49
08. Z.S.L.O (Taipei) / 422189 (1997) / 3'09
09. Jedung Kying / Edging + Junky (Guangzhou/Shanghai) Dabao (2007) / 3'01
10. Tats Lau (Hong Kong) / Face The Antagonish (1992) / 2'53
11. Li Jianhong (Hangzhou) / Sod (2007) / 5'32
12. Dino (Taipei) / untitled (2005) / 6'45

CD4
01. Wang Changcun (Harbin) Through the tide of faces (2007) / 4'59
02. D!O!D!O!D! / Li Jianhong + Huangjin (Hangzhou) A dark knife (2006) / 5'36
03. Yan Jun (Beijing) / Its more than enough (2006) / 5'35
04. Loga (Fuzhou) / 620 (2007) / 9'22
05. Pei aka Liu Pei-Wen (Taipei) / Bird lady (2007) / 7'43
06. Eric Lin aka Lin Chi-Wei (Taipei) / untitled (2007) / 3'10
07. Alice Hui-Sheng Chang (Taiwan) There she is, standing and walking on her own (2007) / 3'59
08. Ching Shen Ching (Taiwan) / V-zone (1997) / Fuji Wang + Anes: electronics / 7'25
09. Dancing Stone (Hong Kong) / Two (1995) / Nelson Hui: flute + Ling Lee: voice / 2'13
10. Illuminated 6.6.6. (Hong Kong) / Enjoy the silence (1992) / 6'06
11. Juno aka Timmy Lok (Hong Kong) / Possiblilities (1995) / 3'18
12. Simon Ho (Hong Kong) / 5 (2005) / 6'53

英国《Wire》8月最新刊的报道，大图点此浏览。

BBC 4在六月初播放了纪录片《Keep on Runnning: 50 years of Island Records》(导演：Stuart Watts)，我分三次贴出视频截图。详细的各种名词一概欠奉（有兴趣的翻阅翻阅网络吧），就用图片视觉来见识一下Island这些年来所遭遇的实实在在的环境，重要的内部人物模样、艺人/乐队照片、唱片封套、录音室记录、活动现场视图、制作工厂窥视、衣着风尚颜色细节年代变迁……这些就是过程。

该纪录片视频的截图专辑上传在此

Codebreaker Feat. Kathy Diamond - Fire (Jimmy Edgar Remix) from Erik West
Directed, Shot and Edited by Erik West
Copyright 2009 Disco Demolition Records

This was shot on a Canon Powershot SD630 Point & Shoot.
Additional footage was shot on a Sony EX1 by Jeff Thomas.
Posted using Final Cut, Photoshop, Motion and Color.

也许是先将图片连续成动态影片，然后再刻意模糊部分景象而达到的微缩焦点的效果，我不清楚。但看起来非常凉爽，我喜欢看雪，永远都喜欢，小时候没见过雪的南方人的特性吧，哈哈。注意这首歌的名字，是“火焰”。

 Merck 2002

Jimmy Edgar好久没出来了。我很喜欢他的作品，简洁有力的Hip-Hop节奏，同样简洁有节奏性的甜美合成音。不仅是他的本名，我还超爱他化名Kristuit Salu vs. Morris Nightingale所出的《My Mines I》！更加Glithy。网上有下载的。至于Codebreaker，不认识，Jimmy Edgar将Fire这首歌完全纳入了自己的体系。新开的小厂Disco Demolition旗下还有The Juan Maclean呐。

VA - Lost Tribe of Techno (Subject Detroit 2009-06)

“Fuck that. That's ridiculous. That's why I don't play the big clubs. I don't do interviews with the big magazines because everybody does. That's the norm. I'm not normal. I'm far from normal. ”
——在采访中DJ Bone说自己不cocky，但这句话却……Juan Atkins几个月前还做了《DJ》中文版的采访。

DJ Bone昨晚在上海The Shelter表演，前两天他接受了上海网站SmSh的采访(可惜不是中国人采的，人家做足了功课)，以下我挑出觉得有意思的部分 (占了几乎90％)。

批评当下时兴的“底特律风格”

SmSh: So, in other interviews you talk a lot about international DJs… DJs from Europe, wherever, biting on the early Detroit Techno sound and repackaging it. Is that something you still see happening today in a major way?

DJ Bone: Yeah, major way. They might not want to admit it. Well, they piggyback and as soon as they felt they were at the pinnacle, they drop it -- drop the association. Everyone was describing their shit, “it's Detroit-esque”, it's “Detroit-lite”, it's “Detroit-inspired”. But as soon as they got to the point where they thought they were the shit, then they dropped it: “I'm my own person, I like to sound different...”

Bullshit.

That's the same motherfucker who was coming to Detroit and taking notes, watching people, know what I mean? Fuck that.

And it might come across as harsh when I say it but it's been like that...

SmSh: Have you heard of Motor City Drum Ensemble?

DJ Bone: Yes.

SmSh: I think it's like a dude from Stuttgart but he's got the 70's afro-chic packaging..

DJ Bone: Oh yeah... I'm really upset with that. On the record, I was so upset when I met Terry Lee Brown Jr. Have you heard of him?

SmSh: No.

DJ Bone: He was doing house music. I think he's out of Germany, I don't know, somewhere in Europe. His logo is this black guy, right, with big lips and a short little afro... it wasn't a caricature that offended me, it was just somebody that looked kinda soulful, and everybody who bought his record thought that the picture was him.

That's him, you know. I met him in London and I just went off. They introduced me and it was some tall white guy from Germany.

SmSh: Looking like one of the dudes in Kraftwerk?

DJ Bone: So, straight up, I was like why the fuck do you have this black guy on your records -- they couldn't believe I said that -- but that's just wrong...

SmSh: What did he say?

DJ Bone: He said that he didn't want to be judged on what he looked like, “it's about the music”, whatever... yeah, but then put the music out there, don't put a fake-ass face out there. Go ahead and be faceless.

But I think people use Detroit -- they may not see it this way, a lot of people say, “we use it as inspiration” -- but explain to me why 80% of techno that's coming out right now, they're using the sounds that we used 20 years ago. The dubby-type, heavy Korg… and they want to claim it as something new. If you use the sounds in a new manner then yes, but if you're just almost, almost imitating what's been done 15 years ago, then there's nothing new about that.

There are some innovative people who use older sounds. So, I'm not against using those sounds in general. I'm against the mindset “I'm Detroit” when you're not from Detroit. I'm “Detroit-esque”. I'm “Detroit-inspired”, but you never visited the city.

How can you be inspired by something that you've never even seen first hand. That's ridiculous to me. Ridiculous. To be inspired is to be there and have an encounter, and that's not the case for a lot of these guys.

I mean something that's classic will never die and you can always innovate. When I DJ, when I make music, it's inspiration. I was inspired by Jeff [Millls], UR, Mojo, Kenny Larkin, Carl Craig, but Detroit is different and a lot of what happens in Europe -- and I see this first hand so I can speak on it -- I see a lot of guys trying, trying their best to sound like someone from Detroit. I'm not saying all of them but a lot of people try to sound like someone from Detroit.

To me, that's not progression, that's not innovation, that's copying. If you are inspired by someone then you take the best qualities and improve on what inspired you. In Detroit, even to this day, if you make a track and it sounds like someone else and everyone you played it for said it sounds like someone else, you throw that track away. You're not proud. You don't say “oh sweet, I got a track that sounds like Rob Hood”. You throw it away because you're embarrassed to sound like someone else in Detroit.

If you think about all the prominent guys from Detroit, you can't take two and say that “these two guys sound alike.” Play a Kenny Larkin track, then play a Rob Hood, then play UR, then play DJ Bone, then play Carl Craig, then play Shake. None of those sound alike. We strive to be different.

So when someone says “I'm Detoit-esque” or “this record is in the Detroit style” -- the Detroit style is light years ahead, so how can you be the Detroit style. Detroit is the next shit and it always has been. It's around the corner, down the block and when people catch up, they catch up.

Inspired by Detroit. Okay. So people don't get upset, here's some: D-tron, Phase -- when I hear his music I hear Detroit, but it's a new version, its something that's progression. It's not some copy cat shit. It's genuine progression...

 

底特律的现状

SmSh: How is Detroit these days?

DJ Bone: Bad. Bad shape right now.

SmSh: How so?

DJ Bone: All the clubs are commercial. Underground parties don't exist...

SmSh: Has there just been too much attention for too long and it's just been washed out? Not enough newer stuff coming up?

DJ Bone: It's a combination... I could blame Detroit for not putting out new music. I mean, we have people touring the world every week, but they haven't released a record in 15 years... or even if it's like seven years. That's wrong. How are you progressing the city? All you're doing is living off the past and padding you wallet because you don't have a retirement fund. And no offense, a lot of these people I idolized when I was younger. But if you want to represent the real Detroit, it's not even if you still live in Detroit. Jeff Mills will always be Detroit. Rob Hood. And these people don't even live there anymore but they're always Detroit and they're making new shit（其中包括Jeff Mills，因为他现在住芝加哥了）. So I admire these guys for making new music and releasing new music.

But a lot of guys are touring the world off of shit they did 10 to 20 years ago. And that's not Detroit. Detroit is innovating. Detroit is the next shit, you know what I'm saying? So you either have to put up the music yourself or nurture younger guys who are doing the new shit. And that's what we do [at Bone's label, Subject Detroit].

A lot of the cats, the younger brothers, are now are inspired by hip hop, so it's really hard to get someone who is 18, 17 to do some Detroit Techno. They want to be hip hop. They want to be Jay Z. They don't want to be Juan Atkins. You know... They want to be Usher, you know what I'm saying. It's almost like trying to get them to do some funky Motown shit. They want to be T-Pain（他也很有趣啊，蛮电的，哈哈。当然，其独创性不足）...

 

为何美国没有Techno市场

SmSh: I read this thing on the internet about Detroit Techno and it had this interesting line that I wanted to get your opinion on: “It's a strange irony that techno is regarded as an American music in just about every country in the world except America.” Do you agree with that? Why don't American audiences understand techno?

DJ Bone: Two reasons: a) it was started by black people -- that's the first and most important reason. And b) it wasn't easily marketable.

Now, if you go back and look at major styles of music that were started by black people, and the biggest example is jazz -- jazz had to go to Switzerland, France, all across Europe and then filter back into America, and even then it was only select black people and Benny Goodman and Big Band shit. They even tried to change the name, “Big Band” -- it was jazz. Same with Detroit Techno. It went across the globe and they tried to repackage it as a different kind of techno.

The U.S. is a microwave society -- I have a project coming out called Microwave Society it's about how instant everything has to be, and calculated -- so the microwave society is, “How can we market it? How can we make money?”

And they looked at techno and said, “We can't”. So that was it.

SmSh: It was too much in a club environment? Not broad enough?

DJ Bone: There were just no stars. There were no faces. So how do you market music like that? They tried with Chemical Brothers, they tried with Crystal Method, and they tried with Prodigy -- you know, smack my bitch up and a bunch of fire and shit（这些都不是Techno，所以这里的shit意思就是真的shit）.

They even tried with Aphex Twin... of course he was like fuck you guys and did want he wanted to do anyways. [Laughs.] He did this thing, I think it was called “Remixes for Cash” -- I love that shit.